>> it is about the united states only in a partial way. there are, as i said, legitimate grievances against u.s. policy, traditional support for the autocratic regimes, failure to solve the palestine problem, the way the war on terror was framed and conducted and the civilian casualties, all that's true. the problem is you have now more -- it has to do with what's taking place in those societies, especially in the arab world, in those societies going through this transition. >> right. >> you have competing forces using a pretext like the movie. you are going to see this taking place all over the arab world and the muslim world because these societies feel marginalized, feel aggrieved, and they are ruled by oppressive regimes, and the regimes are very good at directing the wrath of their own people, not against the injustices in those societies, but against the american boogieman. >> when you look back at the speech that president obama gave in 2009 in cairo when he talked about his desire to recalibrate the relationship between the united